When is an off the record conversation not off the record? – risks and tips for employers

June 15, 2026

By Owen John

Read time: 3 minutes

Off the record conversations can play an important part in resolving employment disputes with staff. However, if not used properly, they can result in costly Tribunal claims and the admission into evidence of information that you would otherwise prefer to remain off the record.

Our employment law expert Owen discusses when off the record conversations are genuinely protected, the risks employers need to be aware of, and how getting it wrong can have significant consequences in any subsequent Employment Tribunal claim.

What is an off the record conversation?

Legally, there are two ways for an employer to have an off the record conversation with an employee:

  • Where there is an existing dispute between an employer and employee – an employer can hold an off the record conversation by describing that conversation as being ‘without prejudice’. The without prejudice rule then ensures that everything said within that conversation remains legally off the record and can’t be used in the course of any future legal proceedings. However, one common mistake that employers make is rushing to describe a conversation as without prejudice when no actual existing dispute exists between employer and employee. This will result in the without prejudice protection failing and the content of the conversation being admissible in future legal proceedings.

OR

  • An employer can describe a conversation as a ‘protected conversation’. This is a statutory form of protection afforded to conversations under section 111A of the Employment Rights Act 1996. Crucially, there is no need for there to be an existing dispute between the parties for an employer to legitimately hold a protected conversation with an employee. On this basis, the protected conversation route appears to be more appealing. However, there are clear limits, and therefore dangers, to using protected conversations.

When are ‘protected conversations’ not protected?

Claims that relate to automatically unfair dismissal such as whistleblowing, union membership or asserting a statutory right are not covered by the confidentially provisions afforded by s.111A. Importantly, claims made on the grounds of discrimination, harassment, victimisation or any other discriminatory behaviour prohibited by the Equality Act 2010, or claims relating to breach of contract or wrongful dismissal are also not afforded the protection.

Additionally, the protection afforded by S.111A is subject to there being no ‘improper behaviour’ by the employer. What constitutes improper behaviour is up to a Tribunal, but usually includes:

  • All forms of harassment, bullying and intimidation
  • Physical assault or the threat of the same
  • All forms of victimisation
  • Discrimination of any kind covered by the Equality Act 2010
  • Putting undue pressure on a party
  • Not giving reasonable time for consideration of a settlement offer (the ACAS Code suggests 10 calendar days to consider the terms of a settlement agreement itself)

Key takeaways

If there is an existing dispute between employer and employee, having a without prejudice conversation is the broadest, most all-encompassing way of ensuring that everything said during that conversation remains genuinely off the record.

However, if there is no existing dispute between employer and employee, an employer will need to rely on having a protected conversation but must bear in mind the limitations outlined above (particularly those relating to potential discrimination claims).

Want a practical insight into protected conversations?

This topic will be explored in greater detail during Webinar 4: “Protected conversations – when they work and when they backfire”, part of our free webinar series, “What keeps HR awake at night?”.

Taking place at 11am on 24 June 2026, this 20-minute, practical session will explain when protected conversations can help reduce legal risk, when they can create new problems, and the common mistakes employers should avoid. Like all sessions in the series, the focus is on real-world employment law issues and practical guidance rather than lengthy discussions of legislation.

For more detailed, practical insight into this and other common employment law risks, join our webinar series running every Wednesday from until 8 July 2026.

If you would like more information about any of the issues discussed in this article, please get in touch. You can contact us via our contact form, email hello@darwingray.com, or call 02920 829 100 to discuss how we can support you or your business.

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